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ER Watch: Senate Budget Subcommittee Approves Expanding ER In CA Courts

Posted on May 30th, 2008 at 7:05 am, by Gordon Aiavao

Looks like California Officials aren’t out of the woods yet when it comes to the issue of expanding ER into more California courts. In the May 29th, 2008, edition of the Daily Journal, in an article by Linda Rapattoni that detailed how the current budget deficit was putting a hold on new judges, there was this piece of news towards the end of the article that caught COCRA’s attention.

“In a more controversial move, it [Senate Budget Subcommittee] also approved giving courts the authority to expand electronic reporting to all proceedings in family, probate and mental health courts as well as in law and motion proceedings. It is now used only in limited civil matters.

“Lobbyists for the roughly 8,000 court reporters in the state have fought off such moves since electronic reporting was introduced as an experiment in the mid-1980s. They say occasional equipment failures make electronic reporting unreliable and it actually requires more personnel, offsetting any potential savings.

“Legislative staff concluded that while it wouldn’t produce significant savings for the state, it would save litigants money because a recording costs between $10 and $20, while a written transcript often costs $300 or more.

“Michelle Castro, a lobbyist for the California State Council of Service Employees, which represents court reporters, said she did not think the proposal has much of a chance. “‘There’s not big momentum for it, at least I’m hoping there isn’t,’ Castro said.”

The Senate Subcommittee #4 has recommended budget trailer bill language to implement these changes.

The interesting thing here is the new tactic that ER proponents taking to push ER into more courts. Instead of emphasizing cost savings for the courts in terms of cuts to court reporter positions and replacing them with “cheaper” equipment, now they’re claiming that these moves would lead to cost savings for litigants as reflected in this bit from the article.

“Legislative staff concluded that while it wouldn’t produce significant savings for the state, it would save litigants money because a recording costs between $10 and $20, while a written transcript often costs $300 or more.

But what the legislative staff still doesn’t understand is that the cost to litigants do not end with this supposed “$10 and $20″ cost. Those litigants are still going to have to get those recordings transcribed and it’s going to cost them transcription fees. And if those transcripts turn out as bad as some of the ones I’ve seen, it will cost them even more in the long run in terms of more transcription fees in order to correct “the record.”

So, how is this a savings to California litigants?

4 Responses to “ER Watch: Senate Budget Subcommittee Approves Expanding ER In CA Courts”

  1. Rick Taormina, csr Says:

    How sad is it when “Legislative staff” is so far removed from recognizing the true efficiency and cost saving with our current California Court Reporters. How important is it to them not to recognize the effectiveness of our current real time Reporters that most Judges utilize.
    A transcript can be prepared immediately. I have heard and looked at a proceeding that was typed by a transcriber and needless to say it was full of errors and inaudibles. It was a terribly inaccurate transcription of the proceedings. Litigants will end up paying enormous amounts for a transcription of tapes. It is very time consuming and will be very costly and definitely will exceed the cost that a court reporter will charge. The certification of a case on appeal that was typed from a CD will never come close to the accuracy of a court reporter transcript. To sacrifice the accuracy and competence of a California Court Reporter over false savings to litigants by using ER is a complete disaster and should clearly recognized as such.

  2. Lyn Yard, CSR Says:

    This is a terribly short-sighted move on the part of the Senate. They ignore the benefits of the court reporter (realtime, readback, instant availability and searchability, daily copy, excerpts during trial) and the fact that it’s going to COST the courts money to purchase and install ER equipment in the stated courtrooms.
    It actually deprives litigants of an accurate and reliable record at their most emotionally vulnerable time, during divorce proceedings or a death in the family. Then sends them off on their own to find a transcriptist, who will charge them at unregulated rates, if they can even find one, as they’re reatively non-existent since the job market has never existed, so out-of-state firms crop up, thereby outsourcing the transcription to non-Californians. California continues to lose!
    Another unintended consequence will be the loss of revenue stream to the courts if the family law, probate and civil law and motion matters are no longer eligible for the fees collected with the Universal Civil Filing fee, which could result in loss to the AOC of up to $15 million!
    Stay tuned — the Conference Committee may need to hear from the official court reporters of the State of California!

  3. California Official Court Reporters Association » Blog Archive » ER Issue Going to Conference Committee - Are you a COCRA Member? Says:

    [...] that important to us, official court reporters? Well, as you can see from the previous post Gordon posted on our website, the Senate Subcommittee Number 4 recommended the expansion of [...]

  4. CVReporter Says:

    WOW! They think this is an answer??? It’s not even fair to the people they think they’re trying to help!

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